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      RAM and NAND are up so much, they couldn’t keep the old price at this point.

      Just discarding an entire market is kinda stupid, but if it helps them sell a few more consoles it might not be

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    Problem with Nintendo, is it’s mostly just remakes of the same games and characters. Also they screwed any customers who bought games before the switch 1, as you can’t play them on switch.

    The switch 1, they never fixed the joycons… They should have recalled and redesigned every joycon… But, for some reason people seem ok with that. Nintendo imho is actually fairly anti consumer

    Ps5 I ended up selling. It’s good but I figured I have hundreds of steam games, so there was no real benefit of having a ps5 too.

    Use the console you want… But, I’m never buying a Nintendo again. I’m happy to be able to continue playing the same games I bought 15 years ago on the latest steam deck

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      Nintendo is extremely anti consumer, even anti-fan of their own products.

      Why people buy Nintendo products and games years after years is crazy to me.

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        I bought a Switch 2 and used it to play Donkey Kong and Mario Kart. They were fun, but now there’s no more games for it really.

        There’s no new Switch 2 games even lined up right now as far as anyone’s concerned. And they decided it’s better to remake Star Fox again rather than make a new one, it felt like a big middle finger.

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        I stood in line for hours for the wii on launch… Back then, it was a new interesting product though. I wish I kept it, and all the accessories (especially guitar hero)

        I bought a wii u… Sure they don’t fix the touchscreen if it breaks and you need a new one though… Still, there were some cool new games, but, somewhat similar to the Wii’s…

        Switch, I understand lining up for it… But, once it was clear that any previous purchases are basically wasted, the joycons were seriously dodgy, and Nintendo was never going to fix it (and many another 5000 mario games), they should have lost people then.

        Then they sold the switch 2… You can still only play games approved by nintendo, and really, the library is mainly Nintendo games, or games available on every platform. By now, Steam deck has gotten awesome, and you can STILL play games from your library from 20 years ago. And, you can use other stores if you want, and have a wide range of games, even in the steam store INCLUDING NSFW ones. And, you know those games are going to almost certainly work in the future without repurchase (and, also work on computer).

        I literally just bought a humble bundle of 10 games for 20% the price of 1 switch game. And I can play them on computer, TV, Steamdeck, etc.

        I’d only pay for nintendo if they were subscription based and thin client. As it stands though, I feel like I’m better off just waiting 20 years until I’m 60 and they’re readily available on emulator

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          They’re already emulated, it’s how I play them. Fitgirl releases them ready to go, emulators included. Check them out.

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      It has been like this for decades now. Commend them all you want for ballsy consoles, but they were always a predatory corporation.

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      I’m gonna turn my ps4 into an emulator and probably turn the ps5 into a linux gaming pc.

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    People who didn’t mind to pay alot of money bought the PS5 at launch. Those who didn’t buy it then, were waiting for the price to drop. Increasing it now is not going to get them much sales.

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      I probably would have bought one around launch, but they were impossible to get. So I bought a gaming PC instead - no regrets what so ever.

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      man I need to be patient gamer by the next November when the new is GTA released only in consoles. Hope I stay a pure PC gamer by that time…

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      Because my hobby is gaming. I don’t have time to take on the additional hobby of fiddling with a PC.

      Also, PC prices have gone up too, haven’t they?

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        The days of having to constantly fiddle with your pc are pretty long gone. I built my current pc a couple years ago and have only had to open it for some minor upgrades (new ssd) and cleaning.

        PC prices are definitely up though.

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          Depends on what you play on PC. A lot of AAA decent releases are, but there’s stuff regularly on sale and it’s pretty easy to accumulate a backlog just from sales of good games.

          There’s also reasonably priced releases like Silksong but that’s more rare

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            PC prices as in the PCs themselves. RAM and storage are way up over the last year.

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              Ah yes. Getting a PC that breaks into the game market has always been a bit more pricey - though the Deck helped that - but these days the component cost is just insane.

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          I built my current pc a couple years ago and have only had to open it for some minor upgrades (new ssd) and cleaning.

          For many that is even too much, then add to that all the software issues, fiddling with settings, etc etc. Consoles are and will be for a long time the simpler and quicker way to play. (For most “normal” people)

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            You have to clean your consoles too, dust doesn’t discriminate

            Also, upgrading your SSD isn’t mandatory, BUT you can do it if you want

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              It’s not laziness; it’s time. I’ve got three kids and a full time job. If I sit down to play a game and I’m spending that time fiddling with drivers or trying to figure out why the video isn’t displaying on my tv, then I don’t get to play a game.

              I swear, PC snobs are worse than recipe writers about underestimating prep time.

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                “Fiddling with drivers” means pressing UPDATE on your graphics driver once every couple of months, even less frequently if you don’t play the newest AAA Games.

                Getting the screen to display takes the same time as with a console: Once while setting up and usually amounts to “Plug in the chord”.

                If you want to play on console you do you, but this shouldn’t be your reason.

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              Especially when the price of consoles are matching PCs. The price of being that lazy is too high, and that’s not even factoring the advantages of everything you get out of a PC.

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                Some of us have lives beyond work and gaming that requires our time and money.

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        Fiddling with a PC? You buy a PC and it’s done. Install Steam, install games, let’s go.

        At best, if you want to switch OSs or try out new things, you’ll spend some time learning how that works. And if you want to try to stretch out the longevity, you can get new RAM, new video card, a replacement CPU. But, all of that is your choice.

        As a bonus, you get something way way more powerful than a console that has a web browser, document editor, video/music player, Jellyfin server, streaming platform, whatever you want.

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          Buy a PC? Ok, let me just go to the PC store and say, “One PC, please.” It’s that simple, right? I don’t have to do hours of research to understand what the components are and then even more research to understand which ones are best?

          Be serious.

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            It is. You can absolutely buy completely configured and built PCs if you want.

            If you go to a computer store and tell them you want a gaming PC to replace your console with X budget you will walk out with one.

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            There are websites that have recommended setups for you to configure and you can ten order the parts to the shop and people will build the PC for you.

            But then again, you don’t seem to be interested in any sort of solution for that matter though as far as I can tell

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              First of all, pointing vaguely at the internet and saying there are websites is supremely unhelpful.

              Second, why would I need a solution when I can just buy a console and not have that problem in the first place?

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                Ah shit, I should’ve known you’re banned from using search engines and can’t just lookup a single phrase like ‘recommended pc builds 2026’

                I don’t get it, you’re obviously extremely uninterested in having this conversation - and yet you’re so invested in it.

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                  Isearched that phrase just for fun, and it turns out a budget PC is $800?

                  I’m not interested in discussing all the reasons PCs aren’t a good fit for me. I just don’t like when PC snobs act like it’s the right fit for everyone. You’re obviously the “invested” one here.

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              Even if you get that all sorted there is still the form factor as well. Consoles usually offer a small form factor for their performance which van be attractive for people who game on their living room tv. Pc gaming is still mostly associated with desktop gaming which is not for everyone.

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    Oh so that’s why they’re rolling back the releasing games on PC thing

    Lol. Lmao even

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      Their strategy right now is literally “Let’s charge more to sell less, and let’s also kneecap a revenue stream that could prop us up during this memory crisis.” Sony has been winning so long that they forgot how easy it is to lose. They are gonna find out.

      Edit: I just want to point out that Sony could have easily shifted this into a win. “Hey, this is Tim Sony, President of Sony. Right now, things are hard for everyone in the world of consumer electronics. For 20 years we’ve tried to bring you the best value in entertainment through quality games and low prices. Unfortunately, today, we have to raise our prices to match cost. I know you don’t like it. I don’t like it, either. However, we still want to give you the best value we can. While we can’t control the cost of components, we can control the cost of our first party games. So, now when you buy a new PS5, you get your choice of any first party game you want for free. Any game, no exceptions. We’re also throwing in 6 months of PlayStation Plus as well, which gives you even more games to play immediately. While we wish we could bring you a lower priced console, we are trying our best to make it so that you don’t have to spend more to have the same amount of fun. Now, get out there, and kill, kill, kill.”

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        “Also, all our first party games will be released on PC at a later date. Why would we leave money on the table? That’s just stupid!”

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          It’s a reference to the Dungeon Crawler Carl series of books. If you haven’t read them, I can’t recommend them enough. The audiobooks are also incredibly well done.

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              That’s true, but they also have Grand Champion, Breed Winner Regional, National Winner Princess Donut the Queen Anne Chonk.

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            They are absolute garbage.

            If you thought Ready Player One was good and you like reading self-published internet fanfic, though, knock yourself out.

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                I mean… if you think “the walls were covered in a weird glowing moss, giving the an area an strange glow,” is writing worth your time, go nuts.

                In the first 50 pages the protagonist has a “boss fight” with a mentally ill woman of color, against her will, and murders her. I thought maybe the author was setting up some BIG THEMES but nah, just video game lulz. If the book actually had anything to SAY about human vulnerability transformed into spectacle, I could maybe respect it, but the author simply doesn’t have the chops or the courage to really examine that in any sincere or meaningful way.

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              I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy them. I don’t feel like there is much similarity between DCC and Ready Player One personally. I didn’t care for the protagonist in Ready Player One, and the whole story revolved around pop culture references. DCC has likable main characters in my opinion, and any pop culture references are very few and far between and have no impact on the story.

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        Oh shit, you just reminded me that the new DCC book is out. I know what I’m doing on my lunch break.

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      I assumed it was because they saw handheld computers and the Steam Machine as serious competition to Sony’s own hardware.

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        Handheld computers are competition to the PlayStation in the sense that Sony would want everyone who owns one to buy a PS5 instead but not in the sense that those consumers having an option is hurting sales significantly. I could not find actual numbers, but analysts seem to be estimating that Valve has sold about 6 million Steam Decks in total. For comparison, Sony sold 1.5 million PS5s last quarter, which is devastating since they sold 2.8 million the year before.

        Also, that sales gap is going to get worse in the short term. Instead of raising Steam Deck prices or reducing profit margins, Valve has decided to stop selling systems until RAM prices come back down.

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        That was my initial thought, but they don’t even have a current gen handheld do they?

        (And if they do, frankly the marketing team should be fired)

        Perhaps the steam machine is a legit concern for them though

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          No, they don’t have a handheld, and that’s kinda the problem. The ecosystem is growing without them. Steamdeck, Xbox ROG Ally, Nintendo Switch. That’s 100% of their competitors, each with handhelds that nearly came out of nowhere in the last few years. Sony is SUPER behind the curve on this, and no amount of “New PSVita5” is gonna save them. They biffed it with the mobile market, and instead of buying in and playing second fiddle, they want to take their ball and go home.

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            No, they don’t have a handheld, and that’s kinda the problem

            PlayStation Portal enters the chat /s

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      Which is weird to me, because the software and licensing is where all the money is. And it isn’t subject to supply chain issues the way that hardware is.

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    I thought they were way too expensive even at launch. Switch games are also great with friends.

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      I bought the original Switch for SMT:V, which then took years to release, and shortly after got a PC release. At first I liked the console, but honestly the Steam Deck is heaps and bounds better.

      What really drove me off the fucking edge is how garbage and overpriced Nintendo’s hardware is. They purposely design things to not be repairable and as fucked as possible, and they use horrible quality components to make their stuff.

      After sitting in its case in a drawer for a few months, my joycon analogue sticks started melting. The rubber just lost its integrity. If Nintendo cared about that kind of thing, they’d design the joycons to have the tips be able to pop off, but no. Further, the component itself is garbage and drifts. That’s well known. You can get replacement hall effect sticks for $10, or you can buy a new set of joycons for ~$80.

      Nintendo could have designed these to be easily maintainable by users, they could’ve designed them to not have the drift problem. They actively chose to be anti-consumer, and with the Switch 2 they doubled down on it.

      8bitdo offers a clone of the Switch Pro controller, that’s better, has more features, and somehow they magically manage to keep the price lower than the official Switch Pro controller, despite not being a massive corporation with pockets as deep as Nintendo.

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        The SEGA Dreamcast had the Guinness World Record for Highest Revenue Generated by an Entertainment Product in a Single Day.

        For this record, set in 1999, it sold >225,100 units to generate $98.4 million USD in revenue. Since then, it has only been replaced by video game software and not consoles (from my research, the Dreamcast was replaced by GTA IV in 2008, and held the record for ~9 years though I dont have any books or historical site references prior to 2008 too verify).

        Of course, everyone remembers the Dreamcast for how highly successful it was, and its massive sales numbers.

        “Fastest selling console” is a meaningless title when more people buy video games every year compared to the previous year, so “fastest selling console” is always going to be next years console until the market crashes.

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          Okay but the question was, “people are buying the Switch 2?” to which the answer, supported by it being the fastest selling console of Nintendo’s life, is an emphatic yes, they are.

    • I got one for free because Amazon fucked up and had a unit in the storage containers I bought a while back.

      Thing’s just collecting dust while I wait for Duskbloods. Which I may not even buy because IIRC, it has a PvP focus and I don’t want to subscribe to Nintendo Online.

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        Ok, I just had a great idea. Are you ready for this? It’s such a good idea. You may want to sit down for this.

        Ok, you ready? Cool.

        You could just send the Switch 2…to me! For free!!!

        ISN’T THAT A GREAT IDEA???

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          Not bad, but I have an even greater idea. Just send it to me instead. Don’t you agree?

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      Sony: Uh oh. Sales are down after our price increase. We won’t make our quarterly line going up. Shareholders will be pissed. What should we do?

      Executives: Raise prices.

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    They will probably have to raise it by a hundred more at least. Gaming is about to get more expensive.

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    Honestly, even with original prices, and even with the rising cost of computers, I don’t see myself investing in anything stationery that isn’t a PC.

    I don’t fuck with Nintendo and I don’t see myself buying a Switch any time soon, but this is still 100% more likely to happen than buying a PlayStation.

    Another factor: Nintendo actually make games that look like they’re happy being games while most Sony exclusives look like they’d rather be movies and begrudgingly settled for being games. I hate that so much.

    Luckily, I don’t have to worry about any of this for now. Steam Deck FTW.

    Platinum better find a way to bring Astral Chain to Steam though 😅