• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      OCCUPY wallstreet was the that testing the water, once the rich saw no actual rioting, action, they continued to laugh all the way to the bank, while convincing a culture war is what people should be concerned about. i overheard people from university talking about how trump has made everyone ovvereact if you mention anything about thier race, or gender(1st term). this is what it is now.

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      Yup, like Mattias Desmet pointed out in his book The Psychology of Totalitarianism, unchallenged, it gets worse and worse. So challenge it at every opportunity. Talk to them. Let them see other perspectives. It’ll plant seeds that eventually short circuit the totalitarianised psyche, and they’ll no longer be able to carry on seeing any and all atrocities as necessary virtues.

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          so what do you propose can help mend this situation?

          obviously not do nothing.

          meet force with force? no, that wont likely work either, since that’s either thwarted easily or creates enough irritation to them to double down all the worse into totalitarian insanity. … which they even welcome, and seek to provoke, to give them more excuse to be worse, painting the effort as a “problem” to which they can evoke the “reaction” clamouring all the more for their “solution”

          so if not planting seeds of better wisdom, and helping them get out of totalitarianised psyche,

          what’s your proposal?

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    So they are actively saying the Fascist parts out loud now.

    Time is ticking away America.

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        They don’t believe there is an armed Left.

        The Gravy Seals are convinced of their righteously impervious dollar store body armor. lol

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          The problem with body armor is that it doesn’t protect all body area. Especially legs and arms. Thus saying, shotgun rounds are very effective against such targets, especially from mid to high range, so that buckshot round has a good spread.

          The second thing is that even good police armor is struggling against medium to heavy rifle rounds like .380 and higher meaning, that sniper rifles are also effective against such armored targets.

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            Body armor is also useless when someone sets your home and family on fire. They have no idea what a civil war actually is.

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              Let’s be real: almost everything can be destroyed with fire. Even tank or military bunker. 😁

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            man it’d be funny if for the next forty years you could identify who was a nazi supporter just by whether or not their right arm is all fucked up with buckshot scarring

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            You can build or buy a 16" rifle chambered in .308, annoying to get the gas system working properly, but not at all limited to longer unwieldy rifles for defeating body armor.

            The bite that a .308 round takes from a thick steel target is truly a thing to behold.

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      We are heading to a point where we will die if and when THEY decide. The virtuosically repellant Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller has already told Trump that he wants to reduce America from 335 million people, to 100 million, and he wants them to look like him (God forbid).

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    “Every congressional democrat and every democrat who’s running for president should be asked a simple question: Do you think this officer was wrong in defending his life against a deranged leftist who tried to run him over?” Vance wrote in a post on X.

    Engaging in any response implicitly agrees on the premise of his question. That 1. The agent was defending his life. 2. That someone tried to run him over. 3. That that person was a deranged leftist.

    It’s a loaded question from the start that must be refused outright.

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      Engaging in any response implicitly agrees on the premise of his question

      The only valid response is “JD Vance is lying to you”.

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    Trump and Shady Vance could die for disobeying the American people. That would take about 3 more invasions, 6 rapes, and 75 americans murdered by their own government, before that will happen (based on what I’ve seen so far). The biggest mistake people are making is waiting for the democrats to save them.

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      The biggest mistake people are making is waiting for the democrats to save them.

      Nobody wants to be the one that goes down in history for kicking off the Civil War. But once it gets going, and people don’t have choices any more, they’ll get involved.

      Everybody is still hoping that there will be a peaceful solution, but whatever that is, it will be unsatisfying to all, and will only be a band-aid on an increasingly festering wound. More and more, it’s looking like America is going to have to literally fight to take our country back from treasonous criminals.

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        actually its worst, they are waiting til it dies down, or someone else comes and stop this, doesnt even need to be DEMs.

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        A civil war isn’t possible in any sense that we know it. America is too big and the fronts are near infinite, city limits, but really, individual property lines in both cities and rural areas.

        Fighting an oppressive government is revolutionary, so it would be more of a revolutionary war, but highly individualized.

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          You know we already had a Civil War, right? So your assertion that it “isn’t possible” is disproven immediately.

          Of course we can have a Civil War. It will be messy, but ALL wars are messy, that’s kind of the point.

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            it will happen once trump starts ordering mass executions, and or disappearance on a larger scale, than just only immigrants.

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              He’s building a facility at Guantanamo Bay to hold 30,000, set to open in 2029. For context, the largest current prison is 8300, in Angola, LA, and the average prison is about 800-1200. He clearly intends to hold an unprecedented number of people.

              Who does he intend to hold there, in a military black site located in Cuba, far from lawyers, courts, family, media, etc.?

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      We will save you from the tyrannical government

      If you’re a billionaire.

      If you’re a common folk, then you better get used to it.

      If you’re a millionaire, you also better obey us, or we will blame everything wrong with the world on you, while contrasting you to our billionaires.

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    They have made it clear that they will kill you even if you are unarmed. Do with that information what you will, I’ve made my choice.

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      Joining the ICE hunting cooperation to help eliminate dangerous predators?

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      they are thugs expecting no resistance or consequences, if people actually fought back on the first day, things wouldve been different. we know trump loves to enact martial law, but hes going to do it sooner or later.

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        When DOGE was first bursting into government office buildings with no authority at all, they just let them in. If the first few DOGE Squads had been gunned down in the lobbies for trying invade a government facility, we’d be in a different place right now.

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          thats why they expected no resistance, from the dems, they are pretty much right. they assume it will just be a localized issue and wouldnt blossom to a country wide problem.

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              no riots, meaning the oligarchs, fascist will know you wont do anything, and they just continue to mow people down. what they are really a fraid is general rioting, doesnt even need to start with 'violence", is enough disrupt businesses in the area, just things like looting, shoplifting, or vandalism is enough to scare them too.

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        This.

        Trump’s not known for his restraint. Or for thinking things through.

        ICE are shooting people in the face yesterday, running people over today. Each day it gets just a little worse. The frog has well and truly boiled. He’s just waiting until a little closer to the mid-terms to enact martial law, but he’ll do it earlier if necessary.

        There’s no scenario where he doesn’t. None.

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        People need to organize into states, states need to get their shit together and begin preparing non-violently, together, for the inevitable civil conflict. If in a world replete with reasons why and how civil wars happen against dictators the US cannot see past their own previous Civil War into why they fought it, to decide whether it was due to Civil Rights or whether it was simply to maintain the Manifest Destiny hegemony, they have already lost. Although there’s too many people thinking this will blow over peacefully without any more preparation except that to believe they can return to the old oligarchy way of doing things for me to have any hope…