Meh. Just use Linux

And being well-fed doesn’t help much if you’re contemplating suicide because your life has no joy in it.

You missed what I said apparently?

If being depressed made people stop needing food, how would anorexia work? Are they just faking it?

You continuing to support Trump while denying it = MAGAT

Me telling the truth that I supported Trump about 9 years ago when he seemed like a MAGA guy (which I told the truth about back then too) = actual MAGA supporter, not MAGAT

Hope this helps

And being well-fed doesn’t help much if you’re contemplating suicide because your life has no joy in it.

Anorexics in shambles after reading this

No, art is definitely less necessary than eating. Art doesn’t help much if you’re starving to death.

And yeah, poor people can make art. In fact, I don’t think you can be too poor to do art. You can be too poor to eat.

As long as there are people starving, there’s not enough money for food and therefore far from enough money for art (which is supposed to be free anyway, as is food indeed).

I didn’t put any words in her mouth, I translated her words to plain English

Found the MAGAT (you)

My post said nothing about Presidents or anything to do with the Presidency but it’s weird how after changing the subject to Presidents, you forgot Biden

No u

You seem like a doublespeak user who meant some indoor place when you said “outside”

brah, i liked the first half… but you lost me on the second half.

Didn’t ask, Nazi

exiting the home when a virus is going around is not equivalent to state-sanctioned murder

This is why I mentioned literacy rates, if you learn to read and then come back you might notice “exiting the home when a virus is going around is equivalent to state-sanctioned murder” matches none of the phrases in my post

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Evidence doesn’t suggest Digit is particularly tyrannical or a pedophile

It sounds like you’re the kind of person who generally does useful stuff all the time, aside from music, while perhaps not getting paid enough for everything.

And it sounds like you want to economically rely on music as your marketable skill, and it’s core to who you are. People will pay for music, even if they’re irrational for it, it still seems rational for you to want to be one of the musicians they pay. Because you want to focus on music, if I’m understanding correctly?

So you can survive by marketing your other skills, but you try to make money on music and you want the arts to be well funded.

But funding the arts wouldn’t work as a generalist idea because not all artists are the same kind of person as you. Not all actually do useful stuff when they can. Taylor Swift just flies around polluting shit for example.

I see it as a problem that our culture had the idea of music as an economically marketable skill before the idea of ending world hunger. I don’t think our culture should make you feel like relying on that is a viable option. Taylor Swift shouldn’t be so rich. Wealth should be so evenly distributed that your drive to make the world a better place makes it easier for you to earn enough from side jobs and focus on music.

But since that’s not the world we have, it’s understandable that you think the way you do. I don’t judge it.

It sounds like our core disagreement might even boil down to one term - “on the side.” It sounds like you envision doing music with other work on the side, and I envision doing other work with music on the side. It sounds like, if you get rich on music, you’d probably buy a home and start a community garden or do something for the hungry in your community. Then I’d say you’re earning your position with that stuff and the music is on the side, but you and society would say you’re earning your keep with music and that other stuff is on the side, I guess. You don’t envision flying around pointlessly like Taylor Swift, your vision is more like mine, just with different words, maybe.

She just has to get over it.

If everyone sits around fearing the authorities using force until the authorities use force, the authorities automatically use force on everyone and we are all dead or imprisoned before long.

The only way to function as an adult is to understand that they can’t get all of us without us helping them do it. We have to make using force as hard as sending men with guns and feeding us in a cage, not just saying scary stuff.

If you’ve grown food, I have no criticism. Will read the rest of this a little later, just wanted to reply to that part first

Idk what to tell you man, if you’re not growing food or cooking food or doing anything for the people that grow and cook food except be competition for the other art they could enjoy or make, then people probably shouldn’t be giving you money until they can figure out how to organize a society that produces enough food for everyone

Also, you only feel pressured to get incomprehensibly infinite practice because you made it about money. I haven’t practiced piano in forever or directly used my piano skill for any of the music I’ve made, and I’ve never heard any music better than what friends have played for me after mere portions of mere human lifetimes of practice on their instruments, back when I had friends.

If you have friends, no level of virtuosity you reach or money you make should ever be as meaningful as time you’ve spent jamming or even just listening to music with them

Are you genuinely too dumb to understand not all artists are in it for the money, or are you just dishonestly pretending I’ve never created anything?

Nah, that’s all fundamentally wrong.

Paying artists for their work, especially when there’s not enough food for everyone, is capitalist bullshit that perpetuates and is perpetuated by letting rich people dominate society. Your post makes the problem worse by not expressing any loss of respect for artists who enrich themselves while others starve.

If Eminem read your reply, he’d probably take it as a sign his low income background makes it OK for him to be so famous we both know him, while other people are starving to death and other artists have zero audience - but you’re trying to twist it the other way around, like rocket launching him into capitalist mental illness is actually keeping things grounded or something.

That’s how you get a society where people like Eminem aren’t organizing to overthrow Trump, because instead of the situation being “I’m known and paid as an artist for the useful stuff I do in that position aside from art,” the situation is “anything useful I do aside from art will detract from my career as an artist so I should just shut up and be less political, at least less political than organizing a revolution.”

If someone doesn’t care enough about art to do it when it’s hard, their opinion isn’t more valuable than mine just because they’re poorer than me.

I have been homeless before and probably will again because I have a spine - people who waste their lives doing whatever corporations tell them, do not have more valuable opinions than me just because they have less money than me.

It would be more reasonable if no one paid artists for their work until there was enough food for everyone, and art had to come from people like me who can afford to do it regardless of how much money we have, because we’d rather face stuff like homelessness than waste our lives. That’s how you would get a society that isn’t culturally dominated by capitalist bullshit.

Then I’d be making money for the useful stuff I do instead of facing possible homelessness, Eminem would be making money for the useful stuff he does including making any political statements he wants instead of staying quiet to get paid for music, and Trump wouldn’t be a topic.

Edited this comment a lot. Made it too long. Removed one angry paragraph because all the paragraphs are too angry as it is. Sorry.

I don’t even get why pay artists for their work at times like this. Seems like that should be for times when there’s enough food for everyone.

Easy for me to say as someone with enough food to do art as a hobby, but still