Just another school shotin’ for jesus!
Why are some people old in heaven? I’d want to have a 23yo body forever, thank you very much.
And why are some people children in heaven? Does this mean they’ll never develop and get to know what it is like to be mature?
It’s almost like this whole Heaven concept hasn’t been thought out very far.
Don’t worry. This isn’t real. It’s a painting or ai made from someone’s imagination.
I would be reassured by your comment but it’s not real, just made from your imagination.
I think when first contact happens between loved ones, a common reality is unconsciously agreed upon where the family comes together under the bodies they inhabited at the time they were all together.
Since the long deceased ones have likely watched the life of the newly deceased with interest, I think that initial reality is then slowly pushed away and the (grown) children take on their more mature forms and the grand parents take on their younger forms, and they all walk away from the meeting as equals
That’s how I’d do it
A level of Bible fanfiction Danté would be proud of
why thank you
But then someone else they all know dies too. And then they have to reset to that person’s last memory? What a pain!
Bodies don’t go to heaven. They decompose and become one with the earth.
Iranian mommies and daddies when the war with US starts:
Or Palestinian ones on a Tuesday
Israel.
USAF
ICE
Jehovah’s witness fan art makes for such great memes.
I received a flyer for “Let’s celebrate Jesus’ death” this April. Terrible choice of words
What makes me sad about heaven is that there must be a cutoff in the monkey -> human evolution chain. What happened to the very first human that met that cutoff? They’ll be in heaven but their parents are too monkey and didn’t make it :(
Based on the all dogs go to heaven philosophy, I would say the cutoff would be in the other direction.
I love this reflection. It kind of shines a spotlight on the fallibility of mainstream religions under rational thought. Could there be something after death? Sure. But the stories people are peddled arent based on any truth, it’s just telling people what they want to hear to get them to join the club.
There’s a people heaven, and a dog heaven, and a monkey heaven, a bird heaven, etc. Like, what? There’s an estimated 8.7 million species on earth, you think there’s a heaven for each of them? When evolution spins off something new or species cross breed, like a liger from a lion and tiger, does a new heaven just pop into existence?
Mainstream depictions of heaven are bunk.
If you believe evolution is real, you’ll obviously never go to heaven, so you’ll never find out.
I don’t think God discriminates against monkeys
I thought only humans went to heaven. It’s a real can of worms otherwise. Do worms go to heaven? Mosquitos? Bacteria? Viruses?
Well, I don’t think all organisms have free will
I hope in a separate heaven then. Or hell? Is a mosquito automatically evil, just because they do evil things (like sucking blood) and literally nobody likes them, not even their predators?
I don’t think sucking blood is evil. It’s not like it betrays anyone. It’s pretty open about it’s nature.
Same for vampires and ghouls.
I guess if they were more common, they would also be seen as pests rather than evil
not the mosquito’s fault, is it?
Or what if the apes did go to heaven? All of them? From all time. That’s a lot of apes for the early humans to deal with.
And it means that in the end we’ll all have to face Harambe.
I’m more concerned about the tombstones shown in the panting in heaven. like what happened to THOSE people? are they Super Dead?
This picture is from a Jehovah’s Witness publication. This isn’t a depiction of heaven, but rather a future paradise earth. And the picture depicts various people being redirected back to life.
I saw this picture and it immediately gave me flashbacks to JW flyers
If I don’t want afterlife I can just stay dead??
Maybe they ask you to accept terms at the beginning & if you refuse they just let you have your peace, one life was enough.
From Wikipedia:
Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that a “little flock” of 144,000 selected humans go to heaven, but that God will resurrect the majority (the “other sheep”) to a cleansed earth after Armageddon.
I feel like the presence of the headstones and the children more points to the latter belief, that God will resurrect the dead after Armageddon or whatever.
Like, God has resurrected your kid’s dead grandpa, straight out of the grave, and now you’re forced to deal with your shitty father-in-law for eternity
They are dildos, for the giants.
If I’m not mistaken, Buddhism had a being that was the ghost of a ghost. Yes, ghosts could die. Probably that’s the case.
Those are for the living, waiting to rise up.
Shit, I’ve see this painting in person multiple times. I think it’s in one of the Manhattan museums. And I never asked any of this.
IRL != the haternet
So, what happens if you’ve survived a spouse and remarried? Do you have to choose who you want to spend eternity with?
What about adopted and surrogate kids: do they have to hang out with their biological parents now?
Heaven is such a ridiculous concept.
It’s always funny when they depict adults being reunited with their children. How come those adults aren’t depicted as children being reunited with THEIR parents… and recursively so on and so on.
Yes, you have to choose which eternity you want, though it doesn’t necessarily have to be with either spouse.
Source: this documentary
That’s partly why I don’t believe in the existence of heaven or hell
Eternity? Marriage is only “til death do us part!”
What if you bought your wife an eternity ring?
It’s not like it came with her!
There’s an obvious answer; god decides. You asked that question which made him angry so you’re going to hell now. Its how we know you’re not one of the elect
If i’m wrong someone can correct me, but don’t a lot of christians believe that your aoul lies in wait until the day of judgement anyway? So everyone shows up at heaven at the same time.
Time works differently when you’re dead
Edit: sorry… don’t let me ruin your meme lol, i’m just religious infodumping
It depends. Some sects believe in the concept of “particular judgment” – you are judged and go to heaven (or hell, or Detroit) immediately upon death (I think Catholics believe this). Other sects believe in the doctrine of “last judgement” where all the dead are put on hold until the end of the world, and then judged en mass. There is, as usual, conflicting Biblical passages on this point.
My family took a novel approach to it. Everyone gets judged when they die, but only the worst go to hell, and the best go to heaven. The rest wait around until the rapture and then there is Judgement 2: Judgement Day where all the people that were waiting around get judged against all the new people, and then they are split based on some kind of holy bell curve. It was really just a lot of bullshit to get around my family being full of drug addicts and racists and no one wanting to admit that if they go by the Bible they are hellbound.
Holy moly bell curve.
Well, there’s also an apocalypse, right?
There’s probably multiple. Or at least there’s multiple interpretations of it.
I remember reading that bit.
But even if that’s the actual version, this painting just assumes you down near the people you’re wanting to see. Even though those groups would likely have mutually exclusive members? Does everybody get split into though copies to be everywhere they need to be at once?
There’s so much unanswered lore specifics. Revelation was the first part I stopped believing in.
It just seems like whoever wrote it (I think it’s supposed to be John, but those people still think Moses was a real person, so who knows) had dropped too much acid like 10 hours before and was having a really bad comedown phase. None of it is coherent at all.
And the fact that Trump is by far the closest any human has come to being the actual antichrist while they all just follow blindly is the most depressing humor around.
Any other tiny sleight they will call out preemptively (thinking of late 90s/early 00s satanic panic stuff, like Pokémon is evil because it’s made by a company called Wizards of the Coast, and they also make a game called Magic!), but actual Hitler Jr? Nah, they love him to death.
There’s so much unanswered lore specifics. Revelation was the first part I stopped believing in.
Well here’s what christianity says to that: If the Bible doesn’t tell you about 1 specific topic, it’s not important to your redemption. God reserves the right to keep mysteries from you, and the reasons he doesn’t go into depth on what heaven is like are:
- We aught to focus on preserving and caring for others alive on Earth, and the Earth itself, to demonstrate a worthiness to inherit heaven
- he wants us to trust him - to believe that God’s creation is good, and believe it so strongly simply on the evidence of this world rather than a sneak peak of the beyond.
- it may be indescribable to humans.
- if you have to earn a place in heaven, it follows that any description that sufficiently communicates it is like a sneak peak, and we can’t really know if we’ve earned that until we die and weigh the virtue of that person’s life.
And the fact that Trump is by far the closest any human has come to being the actual antichrist while they all just follow blindly is the most depressing humor around.
Not saying this argumentatively, but my 2 cents are that I don’t think Christians “all just follow him blindly.” First, i don’t know how you can have much indication of how many of the christians in america voted for him - it’s not the case that christians migrate en masse to the south to be with like minded people and atheists move up to the north and now you have a neat divide.
Many Christians will have voted him hoping that by second order effects he advances christian interests. This is something that happens under 2 party systems.
I don’t think the most devout and lucid christians support him. Especially after he advanced zionist settle interestsm which is all he stands for now. But uh… you have in the USA a non-lucid christian problem. Mormons, JWs and ridiculous zionist-cult evangelicals. And i’m sorry you have to deal with that, because from what I can tell, those people do blindly support him. To me, those groups are not the best exemplars of “Christian.”
There is a valuable lesson in Donald Trump, though - that we should all have higher standards for the moral standing of a leader. As soon as there was even a question of him being a sex pest (i.e "grab them by the pussies) all people, christian or not, shouldn’t have voted for him.
Ok, fair point.
I’m in the south, so almost all my personal experience is with the stereotypical Baptist type, and my comment was colored with that understanding. I realize there are more types of Christians, but I’m surrounded by the very stereotypical type. So I was referring to them for the most part.
And by “blindly”, I mean they’re assuming that the virtue of voting R is somehow mystically better than voting for someone who will actually not destroy millions of lives. The type I’m familiar with only knows Fox and just assumes anybody that even has to think about who to vote for is probably a Satanist, even though they don’t actually even have a clue what that actually is. They’re “blind” insofar as they can’t see sexual results, they just know they get a god-shaped boner when they vote R.
I only broke out of growing up in it 10 years ago almost exactly (don’t have a date, but it was someone this month). I knew he had made whispers of running a while back, but even though all I only knew him from at the time was that he was on home alone 2 and the apprentice and was some rich guy. I didn’t watch the apprentice, so I didn’t know much about it, but I just knew from tidbits that he was a clown.
I knew as soon as he made a peep I knew that he would be a horrible choice, while still working out how I felt about politics from the ground up.
I remember thinking that the “grab em” conversation leak was actually an instant kill to his entire campaign at the time. I still think it should have been, but I severely underestimated how stupid conservatives are.
I was still coming out of a fog of religion at the time. The world was still opening to me.
Enjoy your mythology. I prefer my imaginary afterlife to be interpreted literally.
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
The Jedi are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that’s left of their religion.
It’s crazy to me that he said something that well articulated once, and then never again.
Is it? It’s not like he had many opportunities after, on account of, y’know, being on the Death Star when it blew up.
“Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?”
My goofy “hasn’t watched star wars in a while” ass thought that was a Han solo quote. Jesus.
Thank you for the reality check
Child mortality was high back then, eh?
Edit: just saw the Anakin after.
Can you explain the Anakin joke, then?
It’s exactly as it sounds. Anakin in Star Wars ended up going nuts and slaughtered an entire class of children training to be Jedi.
Wow. Uh… I don’t know what I expected.
No, but i guess it has another meaning than what i initially thought.
Why are they in a fucking cemetery?! What the fuck is going on up there?
Sometimes you just need to be able to kill a mf in heaven.
And that happens a lot.
So cemetery.
Nietze was wrong, God is undead.
Isn’t it a little tortuous to send children to heaven as children. Even if just a spirit, the appearance and mind of a child feels a little Kirsten Dunst in interview with a vampire. Same with the old. Who wants to go to heaven as an old man or woman?
Most conceptions of heaven kinda feel like hell. This picture scares the hell out of me.
yeah how the fuck does relativity work in heaven? I agree with you, if I died as a kid that would stuck for all of eternity to just be a kid.
This looks like some jehovahs witness “art.”
lots of diversity: check no interracial couples or evidence of them despite lots of diversity: check heaven is a physical place where you keep your body and there’s flowers and columns and shit: check 80s romance novel cover horny painting art style: check
No women in pants: check
No clothing diversity
sometimes they do some clothing diversity to indicate country of origin
at least it’s not ai slop
Statistically, if there’s an afterlife, there’s billions of babies and fetuses in it.
If there’s an afterlife and we’re counting the unborn, then it’s swimming in an endless sea of sperm
an endless sea of sperm
Also if heaven(s?) are tailored to individual’s liking.
