Counterpoint: I’m old and don’t miss any of that. Fewer devices is very, very nice. And fewer physical pieces of media is even nicer for the environment.
I actually don’t miss having to be kind and rewind, or spending 15 minutes with a pencil spooling my music back into a listenable format after being a bit careless with my tapes, only to have Glenn Frey sound like he’s eating marbles next time.
Less waste and less hassle. Nostalgia is overrated.
Hmm, not sure about that. Waiting for my TV to boot or update or connecting to Wi-Fi or my m music streaming app to ‘think’ for two minutes until it works at all is tedious. Don’t get me wrong - it’s still net positive.
But I would instantly choose any option that offers less features if it would give me back this cosy feeling, that I’m the customer and not the product.
Don’t want to go into details here but it feels at certain edges that some of these integrated functionalities have simply not been tested for an actual user, but simply to offer … more.
I semi-agree. A phone is better in any practical way.
But there is something magical about interacting with mechanical (and electromechanical) stuff.
Sometimes I really love putting a record on a record table, flipping a switch, and gently lowering the stylus into the groove. There’s no track skip, no fast-forward, you just sit there and listen to an entire album at once. The quality is worse than what I could get from YouTube or something, but it feels so much more engaging.
And it’s not nostalgia either, my childhood music was on cassettes and later CDs, and I feel less attracted to either of those.
I would probably absolutely hate it if it was the only music format available to me. But the contrast with modern digital music blasted from a depression rectangle is what probably makes it so appealing to me.
You can skip tracks on vinyl. Not at the press of a button, but if there’s a track you know you don’t like, and maybe it’s extra long, you can absolutely set the needle down at a different point. It’s literally what old school DJs did and do.
Well, I know, but don’t tell my ADHD brain that! This has forced me to listen to some tracks I wouldn’t have otherwise and made me appreciate the art of album composition. Even if I don’t particularly enjoy one of them, it still still combines with the others to become more than their sum.
Oh, also, there are turntables that allow you to skip tracks at the press of the button. But that ruins half the fun of vinyl for me.
You can even see where the song gaps are by looking at the grooves. They are pretty noticeable where they are by the uniform color and groove thickness for a few rotations. No deviations in the groove=no sound recorded into that groove for the needle to read.
Man, I miss my vinyl collection and player. Had a beautiful cabinet tower piece and a few milk crates of albums before life got flipped on its head.
Me too old AF and don’t miss walkman or discman or digital cameras or iPod or VHS or any of that old technology.
I understand more as you move away from technology. Like I can get why others feel an attachment to vinyl record players or film photography. Anybody can understand that stuff, while a smart phone seems more like magic.
Because cassette tapes were awful, fast declining quality, tiny picture + tiny booklet if you’re lucky. Discman was awful while cycling to school, potholes causing interruptions… The mp3-player 256MB was a really cool innovation! Enjoyed that supermuch. Went through batteries FAST tho. But vinyl LPs… Is just different. It was never meant for on the road scenario and the size of the 12" sleeve just makes for a really cool collection of pictures alongside the cool collection of music. I still enjoy playing vinyl while I find it is the ultimate album experience. You get nice sleeve/context, sort of forced to listen album a to z and always dead silence in the end instead of some algorithm or autoplay making everything a never ending stream of best case ‘related’ stuff but more common the next sponsored crap being pushed on you…
Counterpoint: I’m old and don’t miss any of that. Fewer devices is very, very nice. And fewer physical pieces of media is even nicer for the environment.
I actually don’t miss having to be kind and rewind, or spending 15 minutes with a pencil spooling my music back into a listenable format after being a bit careless with my tapes, only to have Glenn Frey sound like he’s eating marbles next time.
Less waste and less hassle. Nostalgia is overrated.
It’s more nuanced. We like having all that stuff on one device. It’s the other stuff the device does that annoys us.
Hmm, not sure about that. Waiting for my TV to boot or update or connecting to Wi-Fi or my m music streaming app to ‘think’ for two minutes until it works at all is tedious. Don’t get me wrong - it’s still net positive. But I would instantly choose any option that offers less features if it would give me back this cosy feeling, that I’m the customer and not the product. Don’t want to go into details here but it feels at certain edges that some of these integrated functionalities have simply not been tested for an actual user, but simply to offer … more.
Writing that, it also could just be age bias. :-p
I semi-agree. A phone is better in any practical way.
But there is something magical about interacting with mechanical (and electromechanical) stuff.
Sometimes I really love putting a record on a record table, flipping a switch, and gently lowering the stylus into the groove. There’s no track skip, no fast-forward, you just sit there and listen to an entire album at once. The quality is worse than what I could get from YouTube or something, but it feels so much more engaging.
And it’s not nostalgia either, my childhood music was on cassettes and later CDs, and I feel less attracted to either of those.
I would probably absolutely hate it if it was the only music format available to me. But the contrast with modern digital music blasted from a depression rectangle is what probably makes it so appealing to me.
You can skip tracks on vinyl. Not at the press of a button, but if there’s a track you know you don’t like, and maybe it’s extra long, you can absolutely set the needle down at a different point. It’s literally what old school DJs did and do.
Well, I know, but don’t tell my ADHD brain that! This has forced me to listen to some tracks I wouldn’t have otherwise and made me appreciate the art of album composition. Even if I don’t particularly enjoy one of them, it still still combines with the others to become more than their sum.
Oh, also, there are turntables that allow you to skip tracks at the press of the button. But that ruins half the fun of vinyl for me.
You can even see where the song gaps are by looking at the grooves. They are pretty noticeable where they are by the uniform color and groove thickness for a few rotations. No deviations in the groove=no sound recorded into that groove for the needle to read.
Man, I miss my vinyl collection and player. Had a beautiful cabinet tower piece and a few milk crates of albums before life got flipped on its head.
Me too old AF and don’t miss walkman or discman or digital cameras or iPod or VHS or any of that old technology.
I understand more as you move away from technology. Like I can get why others feel an attachment to vinyl record players or film photography. Anybody can understand that stuff, while a smart phone seems more like magic.
Because cassette tapes were awful, fast declining quality, tiny picture + tiny booklet if you’re lucky. Discman was awful while cycling to school, potholes causing interruptions… The mp3-player 256MB was a really cool innovation! Enjoyed that supermuch. Went through batteries FAST tho. But vinyl LPs… Is just different. It was never meant for on the road scenario and the size of the 12" sleeve just makes for a really cool collection of pictures alongside the cool collection of music. I still enjoy playing vinyl while I find it is the ultimate album experience. You get nice sleeve/context, sort of forced to listen album a to z and always dead silence in the end instead of some algorithm or autoplay making everything a never ending stream of best case ‘related’ stuff but more common the next sponsored crap being pushed on you…