The holy roman empire, and the crusades happened, so the idea is as european as it is american. Or arguably, more european. Either way, it definitely pre-dates america. And don’t get me wrong, fuck america all the way to hell and back. But humans have been attempting to commit genocide at least as long as written history has existed.
Very much not disagreeing, but that’s literally the Divine Right of Kings. The very basis of imperialism is rooted in religiosity. Look at the Crusades for instance.
People have been using religion to dehumanize natives and colonize forever.
I think it’s more likely that the idea of a god or gods originated with humans who consumed psychoactive plants, fungus, and/or ergot-infected grain. Hardly the bossy types.
Over time though, the idea caught on and got popular, until most people had heard of or generally believed in it. Then some tightwads came in and decided that people couldn’t get high anymore, so those folks had to take their drugs to secret caves and such.
Meanwhile, the tightwads appropriated the proto-religious ideas and codified them into stricter religions in order to pacify the masses who over generations had come to believe in such things as gods, and thus religions were converted into instruments of social control.
Not to defend the horrifying Spanish Empire, but it didn’t contain genocide of natives as a tenet. It enslaved people, spread diseases and wars, and murdered millions upon millions, but go to Peru and you’ll see that at least it didn’t reach the goal of extermination to the degree that happened in North America.
tbf, manifest destiny was originally an american idea
Calling dibs on someone else’s land is probably a much older idea than any country on the map today.
oh certainly, but justifying it with “because god said so” is very much american (tho not exclusively, and they probably weren’t the first)
The holy roman empire, and the crusades happened, so the idea is as european as it is american. Or arguably, more european. Either way, it definitely pre-dates america. And don’t get me wrong, fuck america all the way to hell and back. But humans have been attempting to commit genocide at least as long as written history has existed.
Very much not disagreeing, but that’s literally the Divine Right of Kings. The very basis of imperialism is rooted in religiosity. Look at the Crusades for instance.
People have been using religion to dehumanize natives and colonize forever.
Yep. Since before even Christianity or Judaism existed.
The Promised Land was originally God’s idea.
God was originally the idea of bossy humans, though.
I think it’s more likely that the idea of a god or gods originated with humans who consumed psychoactive plants, fungus, and/or ergot-infected grain. Hardly the bossy types.
Over time though, the idea caught on and got popular, until most people had heard of or generally believed in it. Then some tightwads came in and decided that people couldn’t get high anymore, so those folks had to take their drugs to secret caves and such.
Meanwhile, the tightwads appropriated the proto-religious ideas and codified them into stricter religions in order to pacify the masses who over generations had come to believe in such things as gods, and thus religions were converted into instruments of social control.
Strangely, it was the idea of every God that every religion has ever conceived of.
You’re right. The Dutch, and the Spanish, and the English, and the Romans were all totally content with what they had.
Not to defend the horrifying Spanish Empire, but it didn’t contain genocide of natives as a tenet. It enslaved people, spread diseases and wars, and murdered millions upon millions, but go to Peru and you’ll see that at least it didn’t reach the goal of extermination to the degree that happened in North America.