“Fcking bitch,” Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who killed Renee Good, says in the video.*

A newly released cellphone video, apparently filmed by the ICE officer who killed Renee Nicole Good, and obtained by Minneapolis-based Alpha News, a conservative-leaning nonprofit news site, appears to sharply contradict the U.S. government’s public account of the fatal Wednesday shooting, raising new questions about whether the agent who opened fire was ever in immediate danger.

The footage was recorded on a cellphone by ICE officer Jonathan Ross, not by a department body camera. It captures Ross’s own perspective as he approaches Good’s maroon Honda Pilot during what the Department of Homeland Security claims was a federal operation in south Minneapolis.

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    If you’re saying you’re not American, it wasn’t obvious from the context.

    And nothing I said even remotely implied I am American, yet you just decided to assume that. Why, pray tell?

    I would think it were obvious

    What did we talk about assumptions? How are we supposed to read your mind about these hare-brained implications you keep throwing out, but refuse to actually specify?

    Are you now suggesting eveyone should constantly have a tethered drone with 4k cameras, which operates autonomously btw, and has like a payload of explosives. And this you say can be acquired by anyone with 50 dollars.

    And you wonder why people are weirded out?

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      Drones are a tool of the modern battlefield. A tethered drone does not need to fly autonomously. Of course you can program for autonomy if you have the skills, and the autonomous task for armed resistance is not overly complicated, could be as simple as a straight line path.

      Can’t be had for 50 dollars (I didn’t say this), but learning to fly and build drones like that is available to just about anyone, and inexpensively. Moreover drones have non-killing civilian applications - SAR, emergency services, videography - so the skillset can be built without raising concerns or attention.

      Ordnance is added later as needed.

      Entirely hypothetical, of course. I’m not suggesting anything, but I will point out that the 2nd Amendment seems to have done absolutely nothing but cost the lives of hundreds, perhaps thousands, including young children. When it comes to it, the guns are useless. They ended up being a fashion accessory bathed in the blood of toddlers.

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        a 50$ flying toy?

        Drones are a tool of the modern battlefield. A tethered drone does not need to fly autonomously. Of course you can program for autonomy if you have the skills, and the autonomous task for armed resistance is not overly complicated, could be as simple as a straight line path.

        Go see a psychiatrist.

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          Not sure what the paste above has to do with seeing a psychiatrist. I stated technical facts about drones.

          It might have made sense if you’d tied your advice to loosely evidenced geopolitical claims. You could argue they are conspiratorial.

          Did you just run out of things to say?

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            So, first you imply everyone should have a drone, as “they’re a 50 dollar toy”. I ask who would be flying it and for what reason, and you refuse to specify, and then go on about how wired drones don’t need to be autonomous and start rambling on about payloads and geopolitical situations.

            So you think you can fly a wired drone while you’re driving a car or doing something else and that said wired drone is a “50 dollar toy” despite you clearly describing military hardware?

            Go. See. A. Mental. Health. Professional.

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              Uhhh check the usernames dipshit. I’ve never said it was a $50 toy, I actually repeatedly pushed back on that. Do try to keep up.

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                Ah, so you just enter random discussions even when you’re not even discussing the same thing at all, while pretending to discuss the exact same thing?

                I’m not being funny or trying to make fun of mental illness. You really should see a professional. I’ve got an excellent therapist myself.

                See if I were to use the same level of rhetoric as you, I could just start stomping the ground and whining about how “noooo I’m not talking to you! Keep up moron!” but that would be incredibly see-through and idiotic, just like you’re being.

                So, no answer to if you’re able to fly a wired drone while driving a car? Not that it matters whether it’s wired or not, you wouldn’t even be able to fly a semi-autonomous one, even though a wired one is ofc more challenging to pilot.

                And again, who are you suggesting should have one in this scenario and why, and who would be flying it?

                Oh wow, almost as if the fact that we are actually discussing “50-dollar flying toys” (because you not wanting that to be the case doesn’t make it so, little hunnybunny) doesn’t matter. Weird huh? Do try to keep up.

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                  Welcome to public forums, where people often join into discussions. Are you new?

                  I know about the tech, I offered a knowledgeable perspective. I extended the discussion. You clearly don’t have technical knowledge, as evidenced by the fact that you have nothing constructive to add. What are you even talking about?.. Flying while driving a car? I’m suggesting that people learn to fly them, and the skills can come in handy.

                  Not sure where you sit on the issue of the US collapsing into a fascist shithole, but I can clearly see you’re unable to understand what needs to be done to fight it.

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                    No, but you are.

                    When you join a conversation defending someone elses points, you can’t then pretend like you didn’t. Like you didn’t say all the moronic shit you did, like “your country is going to hell” or something, assuming I’m American. Will you admit you were wrong? Ofc you won’t.

                    Here’s the reminder though.

                    Flying while driving a car?

                    Hey newfriend, when you join a conversation, you then also have to join the conversation. You pretending like that is literally schizophrenic. “I’ve no idea what you’re talking about.”

                    You are just ashamed as hell of having been wrong, so now you’re pretending like no-one actually said “everyone should have them”. Them as in military hardware carrying bombs. But who’s gonna fly them? Everyone? Okay. Why? Because they’re a 50 dollar toy? Oh wait no, you’re pretending that wasn’t a part of the conversation you joined?

                    See. Go see a mental health professional you fking donkey.

                    I’m suggesting that people learn to fly them

                    Schizo much? That’s not the conversation you jointed, babby. How in the fuck is that related to any of this? “EVERYONE should have military hardware with bombs!”

                    Genuinely. Get a therapist or a psychiatrist.

                    unable to understand what needs to be done to fight it.

                    Literally schizophrenix. Were discussing 50 dollar toys and you ramble on about armed rebellion. Go to an ER.