• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    3 hours ago

    And you think these assholes won’t just raze that stuff without a care in the world? Because they will. After that they’ll be sued which will end with a small slap on the hand, combined with “oh you!” and that’s it

    It’ll relatively cost you more to buy that tree and plant it, than it’ll cost them to just ignore all that

    • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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      Except no - starting elderberry shrubs is relatively easy. Not like scattering the berries on the ground, but sticking cuttings a couple inches into damp or wet ground in late fall works very well, with very good odds that they’ll be big enough to bear fruit in a year. It’s also very cheap if you have access to an existing tree.

      Apparently you missed this in the research I’m sure you did before commenting on the cost, and strangely the people upvoting you seem to be making the same mistake. Probably AI’s fault. (ooooh, he’s defending AI - nope, just criticizing misinformation)

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        Still doesn’t make him wrong. They will ignore it and receive little to no consequence. I also don’t understand the hostility, infact it fits the “erm actually” meme so well I suspect trolling.

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      It’ll relatively cost you more to buy that tree and plant it, than it’ll cost them to just ignore all that

      This is the unfortunate reality

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    3 hours ago

    The law means nothing when lobbies of big corps can change it to their like, paying politicans as their spokespersons.

  • NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca
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    6 hours ago

    RIP to the Endangered Species Act

    No chance the US government will forego money for their broligarchs because of environmental laws.

    But if you really want to overwhelm someone’s property with an unkillable native plant, I’d have to put Virginia creeper forward as a candidate.

    • potoooooooo 🥔@lemmy.world
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      Get a few people. On one corner: bamboo. On another, kudzu. On a third, blackberries and mint. On a fourth, your creepers. Let the games begin.

      • NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca
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        Oh god, keep the bamboo and kudzu in their native environments. The ecosystem has been through enough!

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          Eh, ecosystems adapt. Most “invasive” species made their way to new lands on their own. The problem is when humans consciously introduce a new species with a purpose, knowing that it dominates against something the idiot human doesn’t like.

          There are only really a few big rules to keep things going. Don’t get rid of the sole predator for a populous prey animal. Don’t introduce prey animals to an environment that reproduce faster than they can be eaten. Don’t plant clones, diversify genetics within a species(looking at you, orchards and tree farms).

      • Apathy Tree@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Should add sunchokes/Jerusalem artichoke in there somewhere, as they are food. I don’t think kudzu is? Lets replace that one.

        Sunchokes spread like crazy as long as they have full sun, and are super difficult to eradicate, but are thwarted by being planted in sunny clearings in densely wooded areas. They can’t spread into the shade.

        Make the land difficult for development, but useful for the community!

      • voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        5 hours ago

        My asshole of a neighbor planted a line of bamboo right on our fence line, so now once a week I have to go to my side yard and dig up roots or they’ll choke out my ac unit within months.

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          If you dig down about 2 foot (or several inches lower than the lowest root you find) and install a rubber barrier that goes from the bottom of the trench to up above the soil, it wont be able to spread to you anymore :)

          You could use brick, stone, or cement, but if any cracks exist or form it’ll eventually find the way through, where that’s significantly less likely with a solid sheet of rubber.

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            It does, and it draws so many bumblebees. I skipped trimming ours for one season and in the fall I noticed it poking out the top of the 2nd story chimney, it had grown under the siding, ~40 feet (12.2m) in one spring/summer.

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    even if that would be an obstacle, it would take mere hours for them to change the law and remove the protection altogether.

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      Agreed, we have to be super careful or otherwise we may end up generating some huge exposure for these platforms!

    • Holla@feddit.org
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      1. Rude.
      2. What’s wrong with liberating content from Facebook and Twitter?
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          I think fedizens are smart enough to not think that using these platforms is any good, but that’s just my impression. You

          you idiots

          seem to disagree though

  • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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    This is actually more likely to end with you in legal trouble yourself rather than stopping construction. Artificial planting is fairly easy to detect as it doesn’t follow natural population distribution, and won’t fall under the protection laws. If they can prove who did it, they can be charged with fraud

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    Except it’s only native to the central valley in California so if you’re anywhere else this is not going to have any effect.

    I guess this person just didn’t look up its range or something? The species pictured there isn’t even native to CA.

    Most endangered species have restricted ranges, which is part of what makes them endangered. So you’ll have to do the work to find out what might be present in your local area.

    That said I did just hear they’re trying to build one in Roseville, CA which IS in the range of this species so guerrilla gardeners, if you happen to be in Roseville, go nuts.

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        For everyone who wants to know why it’s endangered (like i did): Because of a fungus that originally grew on the japanese chestnut variant (starting in the early 1900s), to which the american chestnut has no resistance - it is estimated that in in first half of that century, three to four billion tree died to that fungus. In the original geographic range of the American chestnut, only 4 mature trees remain. There are still some root systems that sprout saplings, but they get killed off by the fungus quickly. There are some enclaves in other areas that still have a few hundred, like in northern Michigan

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    Neat idea… but I don’t think federal law is gonna stop the oligarchs under this administration.

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      Yeah, the ship of legalism has long since sailed. It is sad to see how so many in the US has apparently not realised this yet. It is not about laws or the constitution or anything like that. They now strictly do shit because noone is stopping them, regardless of what it is.

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      I think the way it works now is they take it to court and get the judge to allow them to continue building while the court case works its way through the system and in 6 years when they determine it’s illegal the center has already been built for 5.

  • OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip
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    Donating a couple mil to the ballroom fund will ensure that beetle is suddenly doing just fine and doesn’t need to be considered endangered anymore.

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    They will simply cut whatever protections exist stopping it. Still do it, just don’t expect it to be a forever solution.

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    Easy to notice if it has been purposefully planted recently though. Might delay it for a little bit, maybe

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    That would only be a problem if there were still rule of law in the US. If that were the case, they wouldn’t be able to run all those gas turbines either.