• LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
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    Liberals upset about the progressive insurgency in the Democratic Party should focus their energies on changing the rules that force everyone to the left of republicans to be in the same party. Create multi-party democracy and you won’t have to worry about getting primaried or whether democratic socialists will hurt their brand or any of that.

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      the Democratic Party should focus their energies on changing the rules that force everyone to the left of republicans to be in the same party

      I am under the impression that centrist dems push back on progressives because progressives support policy like this. It’s kind of like you said “Hey Liberals, if you don’t want to be replaced by progressives, just do everything the progressives want to do”.

      My hope is that we’re seeing the left-side equivalent of how the Tea Party shifted the GOP, except it’s actually grassroots.

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        Probably, but if so, saying this to them helps reveal their hand-wringing about electability as self-serving. If they have a solution but won’t pursue it or even block it, then it’s easier to tell them to shut up about it.

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          Fortunately, it looks like the DNC is learning from their past mistakes, and are rallying behind El-Sayed, at least from what I’ve read.

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      They’re not even liberals. They’re right-wingers.

      Create multi-party democracy

      You get anomalies in those systems too. If coalitions are required to form a majority government, guess who gets massively empowered? Opportunist centrist parties that are willing to ally with either side if the price is right.

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      They don’t want that, they need to be the only alternative to Republicans or their billionaire funding pipeline will dry up.

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      meh he fluked it because mcmorrow didn’t pull out quick enough

      an accidental pregnancy

      see what happens if he starts promising “a day without capitalism” lol

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        Do you mind pointing me towards the policy goals El-Sayed has supported that would be in conflict with capitalism?

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      We apparently love 9/11, fund terrorist, and hate America. I guess they just smash that button anytime someone mentions Medicare for all.

      Someone even said “they’re not just communist. They hate America”

      Like, you can tell they’re getting desperate when calling everything “communism” doesn’t work anymore.

      Socialist, Communist, Hate America…

      They can’t call us Nazis. Too much of the Republican base might think that’s true and start voting for us.

      What do they have left? They’ve been saying this shit for decades and people still want to be able to afford a house and healthcare. So odd how we keep winning. /s

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        Trump called Hillary Clinton a socialist. We’re deep into the consequences of falsely crying wolf 1000 times. Let’s hope he gets eaten next time.

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    While I have been voting blue no matter who because if how fascist the GOP it has left a bad taste in my mouth. Now that more progressive candidates are rising it will be interesting to see if they shoe can be put on the other foot. Will the moderates and neo-liberals in the DNC still vote blue no matter who? The moderates maybe but the neo-libs will get butthurt and either not vote or work to sabotage the progressive candidates.

    Let me say this to my progressive brothers and sisters. The gun issue is going to keep driving people away who would be on your side. If you want to get working class people rural people on your side you need to campaign on what you can do for them and not what you can take away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfNeKco5et8&t=3s

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      The reshaping of the DNC towards the left is an unstoppable force at this point. Boomer voters and old Reagan-era politicians are dying off. After decades of neoliberalism maintaining the status quo, the younger generation of voters are getting very impatient with the way things currently are.

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        As an old and luckily retired GenXer I hope to god so. I want to leave this world knowing it is becoming the place I always wanted it to be while I was alive.